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do you know agency theory?

agency theory is separation of the owner ( which is the principal) and the manager (which is the agent).

in this theory the owner must give the manager the sufficient and appropriate share in the profit of the company so that this manager will going to do all his best just to make the company achieve its goal and objectives, also to gain more profits..

in case of smart gilas.. the foreign coach (agent) of it is going to do all his best because he has the appropriate and sufficient salary to be given by our country (principal)..

now i ask u,, in case that the foreign coach win in the election,, what appropriate and sufficient something can we give to that foreigner so that he is going to do his best as a nt coach? ^^

note. pasali pala sa debate,, cezzz,, bilis,, support me,, hehehe

Last edited by dan03 at 12/19/2009 7:42:56 PM

What's important here is the trust of our countrymen. Oo nga, nagtrain siya ng Filipino player para makatulong sa ating NT but majority of us Filipinos ay gustong pinoy rin ang manager. What if kung country natin at country nya ang lalaban? Wala tayong magawa but to worry of what will happen.

Ang NT natin ay may big disadvantage kumpara sa ibang countries since nagenter tayo sa game na to Season 3 pa BUT the Philippines started reaching 1000+ users on season 6-7. Just like JSmoove said on U21 forums,

"cguro for me dapat ung mga di ginagamit sa NT gamitin sa u21. actually dapat pririoty nga u21 since at level tayo with other countries with skills, rather than the NT with our opponents having 2 seasons training ahead of us."

But past is past.

We have our new recruits na galing lang sa U21 team. We have four centers who reaches 100k+ salary, 8 40k+ small forwards who can play SG also and 3 40k+ PG. I know this would be a great change sa ating NT and would help us to climb up the rankings and to level what our U21 has achieved.

Last edited by cezzz16 at 12/19/2009 11:22:57 PM

I am new here (less than 3 weeks) but i will agree to the point why hire someone not pinoy to coach the NT team?

Everything is a learning process, we succeed in life through trial and error. I am sure there are pinoy managers out there who are more than capable of coaching the NT team to new heights. The newer you are in management type games, the more disadvantaged you are. No matter how you want to accelerate your players growth, the simple fact of having less time to train is already one thing the hinders us from really competing with the older NT teams.

Using the U21 team as a base, if everything starts from scratch we are very capable of going head to head with most teams here in BB. Patience they say is a virtue...

All I am saying is I will keep an open mind. I will vote for the most qualified. If BB-Charles ran for our NT, I would vote for him.
The outgoing NT coach of Switzerland (#3 in the world) is German. But I will not discount anyone just because he is not a local manager. If they are both equally capable, of course I will support the local candidate.

Last season, when our NT coach was replaced, if you were given a choice between a local that didn't do anything (or seemed like that) compared to a foreigner who did his job like Lia, who would you rather have?

Again I am not against a Filipino being our NT coach, but the game allows a manager to run for an NT post anywhere. Don't discriminate based on that. Vote based on capability. They will have a harder time but if they are that capable, they can overcome them.

So may the best candidate, local or foreign, win.

By this time, I hope most of you took the right to vote (well done). I won't tell you which is the best choice regarding having a national coach or not. I think everyone should have his own opinion.

What if kung country natin at country nya ang lalaban?

For example, in Spanish basketball (not BB) NT we have an Italian coach, Sergio Scariolo. Some people don't like him much, but I have never heard any complain when we play against Italy. Not to mention what GM-Devastator said about Switzerland or different basketball teams. But again, it is up to you.

There would be many difficulties in language, expressions in chat, and etc.
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but think of the difficulties, the time difference, the language, the focus. Im not so sure about our trust to you being our National Team Manager.

I understand what some of you say about difficulties in language. I hadn't thought it was such a big problem as every speech was written in English. If you prefer to speak Tagalo, I encourage you to do so. And if you think I am not the most suitable one, I strongly encourage to vote for the one you consider the better.

In some matches, I went into the chat. It was strange for me that in U-21 semifinals (I would say the most important national match for this season) I only found another supporter. I hope this will change as community grows.

I have to leave now. I'll be back in a while and answer some of the pending questions. But I want to encourage that you take your own decission and insist that I won't mind the result : no matter that I win or lose, I will give you my help if you ever ask me for it.

i think some of the managers concern here is not whether you are capable or not.it's just that we do not know you enough to give our trust in handling our NT, no offense intended...

In some matches, I went into the chat. It was strange for me that in U-21 semifinals (I would say the most important national match for this season) I only found another supporter. I hope this will change as community grows.

although we are concern about the u21 and nt matches we don't and can't in one way or the other able to watch their games.i think its a reflection of how big of confidence that we are giving to the manager (example here is our u21).i would suggest you try go on the philippine chat during league games/cup/sc you will see a lot of managers not only watching their games but also discussing the previous matches on the NT/U21 games and maybe we can have a nice discussion about anything about bb... :L)

Now that most of you already voted...

@iking : The agency theory sounds appropriate, but I think it has nothing to do with local managers or those who aren't. I am BB supporter, so I give a little money in exchange of fun, and being a proud manager of my team. I suppose it is something similar when you are a NT coach : I can't think of anything better than when you know you did your best. Anyway it will be nice to hear about that "sufficient something"! (just joking) :-P

GM-Devastator: I agree completely with cezzz16 : it is an unfair situation for those countries who had had less seasons to train a good number of players. It changed for a while for some of them when we got the new potentials, and certainly it is not a problem for U-21 teams, as they get renewed every year. So it will be difficult for this country to have such a good team for the NT as this year's U-21, compared to other countries (of course, I would also give a great merit to current staff, I just say that the NT will have a bigger disadvantage on this point).

Anyway, about translating that success to NT. When I sold my Spanish NT player, I made sure that he got into one of the best teams : good doctor, good trainer (and training), Spanish team...
So, there are a lot of things to be done. First, of course, scouting. Then, advicing about proper training. But something important too : findind proper teams for those players which cannot be kept by their teams because of their salary.

@ Don Manoah : Of course, I don't find any offense on that. I understand anyone may doubt about the capabilities of other manager, no matter how much you know about him / her. Even more, when he is a foreigner, and of course, as you don't have a reliable source. Again, no offence : feel free to make any comment now or after the election ;-)

May the NT begin this season as good as possible!

if you vote bb-charles for our nt, then i would not,, i would rather vote jsmoove for NT even he is not candidate,, ^^

just kidding>>> ----___----

does any one of our local candidate is not capable of doing right things about the success of NT?

i think it could be better if the foreigner will going to be a scout first before he is going to be the NT coach,, to observe him,, i not telling he is not best, he could be the best but our trust must be the first priority. how can we trust him? by observing him, how can we observe him? by joining in nt as scout,, or may be a mentor..

in order to get the highest position, start first to the lower position, then to the middle,,

capability is not enough when trust is ignore,,

may the best man handsome, ai win pala, hehe