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262725.12 in reply to 262725.11
Date: 9/25/2014 8:57:55 AM
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yep this is the way to have 3 trainee's.

Mickyster aluded to maybe only having the 3rd trainee as a 'lesser' trainee, because what may happen in G1 or G2, is that your trainee does not get his allocated minutes,

So say Trainee 2 only gets 40 minutes (for whatever reason which i won't go into here. ) in G2, then you could set him as reserve and backup in G3 to get those extra 8 minutes.
However the impact is that then your trainee 3, only gets 40 mins.

Also the problem with having 3 trainee's, is that you end up with 1 position in every single game, which is, for a few seasons, having (possibly) a lesser player in that position, week in week out. - That is to say, you put a brand new trainee at PG, its going to be 1-2 seasons before he is servicable as a PG fo ryour team.

So be aware that training brand new trainee's can be determinantal to your team's success. So this is all part of a being a sucessful manager, and managing/balancing this.

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262725.13 in reply to 262725.12
Date: 9/25/2014 9:17:03 AM
rimmers
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Mickyster aluded to maybe only having the 3rd trainee as a 'lesser' trainee, because what may happen in G1 or G2, is that your trainee does not get his allocated minutes, .


Actually, if you re-read what Mickyster wrote, it's not what he said, which is why I added this way.

In the way he described, your 3 trainees will rarely all receive 48mins in a week, and therefore your third trainee is, infact, lesser.This way they almost always all get 48mins, and your third trainee is as well trained as your other 2.

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262725.14 in reply to 262725.13
Date: 9/25/2014 9:34:58 AM
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i may actually being confused with another thread that he wrote in, apologies.

that sentance above kinda makes me sound asian.

Last edited by Coach Regan at 9/25/2014 9:35:24 AM

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262725.15 in reply to 262725.13
Date: 9/25/2014 1:54:02 PM
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IMO it is taking too much of a risk to try and force 3 guys to get 48 mins a week.
Most weeks I get 3 to get 48 mins but sometimes it just does nto work out. And you need to be prepared to just to 1 position training if need be or have a trainee who you are happy to miss some mins.

Generally my 3rd guys is a younger lower potenital guy or a older guy I am just giving some finishing touches to. Tryint to get 4 players 48mins a week will make it hard to win as often and also be difficult for a new person to training to manage.


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262725.16 in reply to 262725.15
Date: 9/25/2014 6:19:04 PM
rimmers
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So who is your 3rd trainee? How many times has he got 48mins this season?

Nolan is mine. He has had 48mins training every week this season, apart from his recent injury break.

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262725.17 in reply to 262725.15
Date: 9/25/2014 8:42:38 PM
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I agree that you need a third trainee, who you are willing to give less minutes to if necessary. But you should try to give all 3 48 training minutes per week, because, why not?

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262725.19 in reply to 262725.18
Date: 9/26/2014 5:00:07 AM
rimmers
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Agreed, it's kind of like disadvantaging yourself to prevent a possible, yet unlikely, disadvantage. Your conceeding that you will just be disadvantaged

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262725.20 in reply to 262725.17
Date: 9/26/2014 3:23:03 PM
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I agree that you need a third trainee, who you are willing to give less minutes to if necessary. But you should try to give all 3 48 training minutes per week, because, why not?

This is my position
Only been 2 times people did not get 48 mins all season. And it was 2 different guys. Imo by not naming 2 guys in the training position you can lose heaps of mins. Guy gets injured early. Most the time you get 48 for 3 guys but sometimes you don't.

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262725.21 in reply to 262725.20
Date: 9/26/2014 6:17:24 PM
rimmers
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Looking at your trainees mins I can't see one week where all 3 of your trainees got 48mins single position using this strategy? Can you explain how it's been working for your trainees?

To get 48mins for all 3 in single position, you'd have to fluke them getting the same mins in 2 consecutive games.

Last edited by whitewind at 9/26/2014 6:24:10 PM

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262725.22 in reply to 262725.19
Date: 9/26/2014 9:13:28 PM
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yer this is all true, i think focusing on 2 trainee's is as much of a psychological thing as it is practical.

Having only 2 trainee's makes it much more clearer about what your goals are for each individual player, and provide less distraction for getting them minutes or training something that goes against your training plan.

What I prefer to do, is have 2 younger trainee's that I can maximize the 48 mins against, and then I have an older trainee whom gets the supplimental minutes.
So at the moment i have Nash and Bellard and im smashing ID and SB. but ill throw in 1n1 for forwards every now again. My third trainee is Phil who is 25, but has MVP potential (and he was a SF prospect) - so he gets the minutes - but only sometimes because im not willing to sacrifice my league position just so that he gets minutes at C.

so yer, sometimes i have 3 trainee's, sometimes not. Bellard is not good enough at the moment to play in league games, and Nash only become good enough halfway through the season, so its made it difficult, especially because I was also in the cup

So i think having 3 trainee's is possible, but it depends on the state of your trainee's, and your league expectations. But for, Div II with 3 x 18 or 19 year olds who are brand new trainee's - your league and cup success is extremely limited.

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