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172703.11 in reply to 172703.10
Date: 1/28/2011 10:03:39 AM
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On the other hand, this +1 system is more encouraging to be a post whore.

Fixed that for you.

In this current system, the great posts will still get rated. No need to poorly rate the remaining posts, what would be the point?

There are plenty of posts that get +1 that have nothing great about them. Wade through any thread where people are complaining (whinging threads, I believe you would call them) and see if some crying chump with nothing to say gets his/her post rated highly.

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172703.12 in reply to 172703.11
Date: 1/28/2011 10:17:50 AM
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I don't think this system encourages people to post excessively. It just makes people feel more comfortable posting when losers on the internet aren't rating their post down because of a spelling mistake, or because it is in a whinging thread, or because a newbie asked another question or for whatever other reason.

There is no reason we need to rate posts negatively. If you really don't want to see posts rated up then suggest for the entire post rating system to be removed. But there is no way that allowing negative ratings is in any way good for the game.

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172703.13 in reply to 172703.12
Date: 1/28/2011 10:22:31 AM
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I don't think this system encourages people to post excessively. It just makes people feel more comfortable posting when losers on the internet aren't rating their post down because of a spelling mistake, or because it is in a whinging thread, or because a newbie asked another question or for whatever other reason.

There is no reason we need to rate posts negatively. If you really don't want to see posts rated up then suggest for the entire post rating system to be removed. But there is no way that allowing negative ratings is in any way good for the game.

You're entitled to your opinion, and while it may differ from mine, I realize I'm also the guy who has been waiting for Facebook to implement a "dislike" button.

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172703.14 in reply to 172703.13
Date: 1/28/2011 10:35:09 AM
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lol dislike button on facebook would simply increase teen bullying and suicide rates lol. Never gonna happen.

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172703.15 in reply to 172703.14
Date: 1/28/2011 10:55:23 AM
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It just makes people feel more comfortable posting when losers on the internet aren't rating their post down because of a spelling mistake, or because it is in a whinging thread, or because a newbie asked another question or for whatever other reason.

lol dislike button on facebook would simply increase teen bullying and suicide rates lol. Never gonna happen.

Thankfully, you're here with all the answers about what sort of horrendous psychological damage the clicking of buttons do to people. All of modern society owes you a giant debt of gratitude.

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172703.16 in reply to 172703.15
Date: 1/28/2011 10:59:19 AM
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Thankfully, you're here with all the answers about what sort of horrendous psychological damage the clicking of buttons do to people. All of modern society owes you a giant debt of gratitude.

You are welcome :P And I didn't say anything that anyone with common sense couldn't work out for themselves.

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172703.17 in reply to 172703.1
Date: 1/28/2011 12:52:19 PM
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Yea, for some of us it takes real hardwork to get some points...

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172703.18 in reply to 172703.10
Date: 1/29/2011 3:16:51 AM
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The reason they removed the 5 ball system was because giving 1 ball is negative and stops people from wanting to post.


it never stopped Edju from posting did it? ;รพ

but I get what you mean.

I also like the orange and red ratings though, so we can see how many good posts and how many bad posts anyone has posted. In the same time it would be nice to see the total amount of posts by a user, for instance in box on the left of the post, with his teamdata.
If they implement it, they might be able to disable the red scoring on the helpforums to solve the 'discouraging' problem there. But then again, it would cause other negatives by doing that as well. So I'm not sure...

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172703.19 in reply to 172703.18
Date: 1/29/2011 3:53:03 AM
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To me the current system just encourages quantity over quality, and frankly I think the effect has been seen in the larger forums. Gettting as many balls as possible has become a competition and it seems to me like quite a few just spams the forums with pointless posts just hoping that they get a random "hit". This to me decreases the interest in these forums, and as an effect I just read them occasionally.

That said I see the problem with negative balls, but I think this could be solved by just showing the total sum on each post, but whenever the sum is negative it should just show 0 (possibly it could show the actual sum for your own posts as this would give you feedback when people disagree too). It should work the same with the grand total, only the sum should be displayed, but whenever it is a negative number 0 should be displayed.

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172703.20 in reply to 172703.19
Date: 1/29/2011 4:36:09 AM
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That said I see the problem with negative balls, but I think this could be solved by just showing the total sum on each post, but whenever the sum is negative it should just show 0 (possibly it could show the actual sum for your own posts as this would give you feedback when people disagree too). It should work the same with the grand total, only the sum should be displayed, but whenever it is a negative number 0 should be displayed.

I think this is the part where the -1 fails, it gives you no feedback what so ever. I think that if you find a post that you disagree with, you should explain why and what part you disagree with, in a reply. If a lot of ppl have the same issue with the first post they can simply +1 the reply.
That way you can have a healthy discussion with feedback to the op.

/Mannen
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172703.21 in reply to 172703.20
Date: 1/29/2011 5:11:06 AM
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That said I see the problem with negative balls, but I think this could be solved by just showing the total sum on each post, but whenever the sum is negative it should just show 0 (possibly it could show the actual sum for your own posts as this would give you feedback when people disagree too). It should work the same with the grand total, only the sum should be displayed, but whenever it is a negative number 0 should be displayed.

I think this is the part where the -1 fails, it gives you no feedback what so ever. I think that if you find a post that you disagree with, you should explain why and what part you disagree with, in a reply. If a lot of ppl have the same issue with the first post they can simply +1 the reply.
That way you can have a healthy discussion with feedback to the op.

Well, as I see it that has not worked this far, so I have no reason to believe that it suddenly will do. You could reason the exact same way about the plu. If you have something positive to say then say it why set a +1 instead. That kind of implys that if you have something negative to say you are encourage to write it, but if you have something positive you might as well just +1 it. Then of course showing the total negative number, only for yourself and never for someone else, was not the main message in my post, which was the reason why it was within parenthesis and with a "possibly". I myself would think this would be intersting to see for my own posts though.

That said, I would prefer a "no ball" system though, as I think people should be encourage to write because they have something to say, rather than chasing balls and a system with only positive balls for me is the worst alternative.

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