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Guys I dont see the problem here. So many people are unhappy about the recent changes. To be fair most of those changes were announced some time ago so people shaould have prepared accordingly and the most recent changes were found neccessary in order to keep the economical balance. My point is that we all had the same information for a few seasons now and the difference is how each individual delt with the upcomming changes. We were all in the same boat the only difference is that some users might have made better choices.
It is very natural for the majority of the poeple in an organization or a society(as BB) to react negatively to change. Change brings uncertainty and poeple tend to feel disadvantageous to other users due to those changes. The fact is that change itself does not make your team less competitive. The way you deal with the changes might do that but still you can always recover. The most common problem I can see here is people complaining about the upcomming fall in prices due to the re-introduction of free agents. You spent your cash on the more expensive players and users with piles of cash have the advantage? Well that just aint true. First of all the teams with loads of cash and expensive players will ALWAYS have the advantage. Whatever happens if you got the money or the players to offload you can react better to any changes in the enviroment or the lack of changes for that matter. So if you feel that some of the recent changes hurt your team in any way, what i think you should do is try to cope with the issue the best way you get. You got some overpriced player recently? Well you can still sell him as the market aint exactly cheap yet right?

Whatever, Your Essence of Knowledge.

EDIT: Frankly docend24, this is borderline offense, please respect the attempts to keep this a pleasant place and don't test limits. You expect the same from others.
Josef

Expect the same from others Gm-kozlodoev included (he is probably the most patronizing person on boards, ask around or look how many times his posts have 1 ball rating...). I would just like if he would actually try to understand other posters' posts before replying to them and not just type his automatic "no, you are wrong" response with some aditional words around it. Is it too much to expect?

(I simply don't care about this that much so dont be afraid I would start a flamewar or whatever, I just want you to look at it from the other side - if my post was offensive then his frequentr habit of discarding ideas of other posters (including manager of top 20 teams) without a thought (i just cant believe he doesnt relaize the point all the time) is at least annoying too. Would it be ok, if I add a smiley to my post?:) )

I hope that you never go... Who am I going to have never ending discussions about the game engine with if you're not around?

I hope that you never go... Who am I going to have never ending discussions about the game engine with if you're not around?

or pace... xDD

Which are the features that a Free Agent should have?

> than 10k of salary?

Thank you for answer, because this interest to me a National Team Manager.

Steve Makis

After i read that post i came with some conclusions.

1) Its the perfect time to sell a player, but not to buy. Sell high, and keep u r money, when the prices will drop

2)Invest on u r arena (if u can fill more sits), as from what i have understand is that the optimal arena size for 1st division teams is around the 20.000 sits. (from the beginning of the season i have spend until now like 1.7 mill on the expansion, and i still have 1.2 mil.

3) Its a wise move to spend money during the middle of the season, when the changes have some stability we can have some safe conclusions about the affects of the (any changes). Looks like the most important skill that u need to have on this game to succeed, is the patience, and try to take the advantage from any situation. Indeed this season the game looks more than economist game than basketball (thats reminds me basketsim and its NOT a good sign).

Anyway, i will show faith to the BB, and see how those changes will affect the game on the long term. I will be supporter until next May so i guess that i can wait :)

After i read your post i came with some conclusions.

1) Its the perfect time to sell a player, but not to buy. Sell high, and keep u r money, when the prices will drop

Good. But, in the meanwhile, between selling high my best players and being able to buy at reasonables prices, how many series I'll drop (I.e. how much money I'll use to make my team better I'll lose?)

2)Invest on u r arena (if u can fill more sits), as from what i have understand is that the optimal arena size for 1st division teams is around the 20.000 sits. (from the beginning of the season i have spend until now like 1.7 mill on the expansion, and i still have 1.2 mil.

Good indeed. But, if I can't buy a decent players because I ain't got the money (the few I got is invested in arena improvements), who will come to see me lose any and every match?

3) Its a wise move to spend money during the middle of the season, when the changes have some stability we can have some safe conclusions about the affects of the (any changes). Looks like the most important skill that u need to have on this game to succeed, is the patience, and try to take the advantage from any situation. Indeed this season the game looks more than economist game than basketball (thats reminds me basketsim and its NOT a good sign).

Almost perfect, but for one, tiny thing. This particular changing has been done right at the middle of the season and it makes a precedent: what if next season I'm just done with some adjustments to my team (or arena) and rules will change another time? I'm with the ones that say that it's really important to keep communication up and announce any change in rules way before it's put on.

Anyway, i will show faith to the BB, and see how those changes will affect the game on the long term. I will be supporter until next May so i guess that i can wait :)

I'm not a supporter, but I'll stick to this game too. Not because I trust so much BB's skills in planning and improving the game, but because I like to play, even if I have to fight (as a small IV serie team) againist economy and not only other players.

1) With 1 good SF, i can win CBBA again, but maybe i can sacrifice, 1 title for my teams future.

2)Assuming that u r not battle to avoid the relegation, and u r at the middle, or a contender, then u can afford that

3)I i agree 100% with u on this

Take it from someone who really is a native English speaker (and not a US English speaker who thinks he is), there is a knack to writing for translation. I wrote copy that was translated into every language used in Europe, the Middle East and Africa for a global brand. It was a hell of a learning experience.

A big part of keeping the nuance is briefing your translators so:
- they fully understand what's expected them
- they fully understand the copy they are being asked to translate.

Your example quotes slang. Yes, you'd expect them to handle slang. That wasn't the point made.

The original criticism was that the BB news posts are ambiguous - maybe because they aim to have a sense of mystery.
I'd go along with that - both the reasons for adopting a sense of mystery by the BBs and the criticism they don't quite strike the right balance between providing light (information) and shadow (keeping the potential consequences open to interpretation).

But I can tell that they try hard to get it right.

My point, such as it is, is that it's a lot more difficult than it looks to write optimally, so don't moan too much but yeah, I can see why the LAs think they have a tough job when it comes to translating news.

The BBs have shown they listen to constructive criticism and I'm sure they will continue to improve their communication, as they do in the other areas of the game.

But yeah, at the moment, news posts are way too long, need more sub-heads and would be better served up in smaller chunks.

Last edited by Elmacca at 10/14/2009 12:24:20 PM

I have to admit that I am overjoyed to speak Amerkin and not waste my letter "u's" unnecessarily. I would think that someone as well-versed in the Queen's blather as you would A) not use so many worthless commas and would never make a mistake like

-they fully understand what's expected them.

Or is that how Brits speak English?

My point was that the BB's write their news releases with a lot of thought. The tone is intentional. In light of this, it is the job of a translator to capture the tone and the meaning. I never said it was easy, nor did I say the translators of this site were doing anything but a great and thankless job. As they say in Stratford-Upon-Avon... Cheers.