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There's a guy on the TL with the following skills:

Jump Shot: phenomenal Jump Range: prominent
Outside Def.: legendary Handling: colossal
Driving: phenomenal Passing: sensational
Inside Shot: prodigious Inside Def.: tremendous
Rebounding: awful Shot Blocking: inept
Stamina: inept Free Throw: mediocre

My understanding is that he will not get much benefit from the inside skills (IS+ID) if he plays outside and not much benefit from the OD if he plays inside. Would that be a fair assessment?

That's a push the ball player.. very rare to see one of those.. just not enough freethrow for my taste but best I've seen in long time for a pg.

I would buy him depending on his age. As far inside game , this guy is a beast. I just pity the FT. Might can get it up depending on his age.

That's a push the ball player.. very rare to see one of those

no... no he is not. Inept stamina + Fast paced offense = not that good.

inside skills will mean offensively the player can combat good ID of the opposition. That means whenever he drives he will hav a better chance of hitting his shots. = higher FG% overall and a good player for LI offense.

Defensively, he combats a player with similar skills to himself.
IS for guards is VERY underrated in this game and those in the know have a PG with good IS.

you cant make that claim out right because he is being sold it already lowered(stamina& game shape). But if someone play him a few game it will go back up.

. He has the rest of his skill merit to the tactic.... he can play Li offense yes. but he is more better in push the ball given the skills. push the ball is passing , driving ,mid range with a 3pter here and there. I would say ft line as well. he has those skills in a great fashion. well not ft.

I'm not going to talk on the defensive side because that's a whole new long argument not really worth getting into right now.

Is &driving c0- relate in a way they are seperate things ok. but same time they co relate . look at his jump range skills. Its more mid range.. LI is close range, he has inside shooting. Now look at his jump shot. you don't need all that jump shot in LI this will bring you back to mid range player overall. Look at his handling. passing. ast - turnover ratio.

It shows he is a fast player and he is suited for push the ball more than Li. Li is not a slow tactic, its actually very fast one.. Yes he can play it and maybe has played 1000k time over. But He is perfect for Ptb in my opinion .

I'm thinking 25pts +- 8ast a night or better on the highest level..

I think also his handling will increase the amount of motion that would occur if they played motion offense. definately that offense will help his ability to create motion of the court and this will affect the other players because they won't be able to handle the court moving so much.
Also he kind of reminds me of Gilbert Arena's type of player, so that should definitely help with the gun part of the RnG offense.

Is &driving c0- relate in a way they are seperate things ok

- I agree with this statement, a bit like in a way how Rebounding and Shotblocking are related, but separate things altogether but also - at the same time, 100% related and the same.
he definitely has great fashion skills - these should definitely suit a patient offense. only good looking players who are well dressed are Patient players.
But with PTB, his handling is the most important. he wouldn't be able to push it at all with being able to handle it. so yer you are right there.

why are you talking nonsense in your second half of your statement. I find that very disrespectful not to me because I'm not here for anyone respect but to the op writer and many others who really have these players and what to know what these player are in a tactical way. > Nothing I said to was disrespectful in my post to the Op writer or your self . I have a great opinion on thought, on what the player could do's not sarcasim foolishness to direspect anyone. I don't understand your predilection of attitude neither many other's trying to prove someone wrong and this or that . None really know for 100% certain the can do's of a player. It take other to speak out to do so then that manager try t sometime. Not how you can adulterate someone because you have a contrary feelings, which has nothing to do with the game.

We can give numbers and etc but are we wrong no matter how close they are to the actual truth. We dont have to agree what kind of player he is or the actual numbers he can perform at?. He can be a motion /run and gun player but yet still you bring the 1st point his stamina and game shape, which is low. You neglect these point to start which will be lower by market standards to sell by new rules and you made them your strong arguments. I kindly corrected you on that. To bring up, the player can play one more than one way if improved.

I think you need show your best even if you don't agree. Not damage the op thread with that your not hurting me any. If the op bought the guy played him in ptb with his stamina/game shape better from a few games.He will see the average's I put up are true or close to that after some time with player improvement.. Some players are not confined to just one tactical way of play, some can play a lot of them and do very well, which my thought of this player. I like to call them dynamic players "for the skill they can do more than most players". None has to agree with the assestment nor the theory.

It does no good to anyone, doing Bs like you just did. I gave him options in my own opinion, not arguments on the option given. Its immature. The player can play more than one tactic we all can see this if improved. what you would do with him is whole new ball game. Same as in the way I would improve him and play him tottally different . Its about options. This player has those augmentations.

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 1/1/2015 10:59:54 AM

you cant make that claim out right because he is being sold it already lowered(stamina& game shape). But if someone play him a few game it will go back up.

Only GS drops because a player is sold; stamina does not. Stamina also does not improve when he plays games. It only improves if trained (or as impact of cross-training).

Well, I'll agree with you. I think that's an awesome PtB player. Only, he may be best played offensively at SF in the tactic because JR use is severely restricted at SF in the tactic but increased (I think?) at guard.

why are you talking nonsense

This is gold.

That's why i read this.