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I drafted these two 19yo superstars, they have a bit of a height difference but trained together I think they would eventually make a nice SF/PF pair. What would their optimal final builds look like (being trained in exact same skills)? Thanks.

Tony O'Brien (eventual SF)
Age: 19
Height: 6'1" / 185 cm
Potential: superstar

Jump Shot: awful ↑ Jump Range: average
Outside Def.: inept Handling: average
Driving: prominent Passing: strong
Inside Shot: mediocre Inside Def.: respectable
Rebounding: inept Shot Blocking: pitiful
Stamina: average Free Throw: inept

Paul Bellamy (eventual PF)
Age: 19
Height: 6'7" / 201 cm
Potential: superstar

Jump Shot: average Jump Range: awful ↑
Outside Def.: awful Handling: proficient
Driving: inept Passing: mediocre
Inside Shot: proficient Inside Def.: mediocre
Rebounding: average Shot Blocking: inept
Stamina: strong Free Throw: strong


Edit: posted in help forums as well

Last edited by Cranston at 12/4/2014 12:52:44 AM

I'll have a solid look after getting some work done, but looking at their heights, it's a challenge to push them to SF/PF. They would be easier to train to SG/SF which you may want to consider but I will crunch some numbers to see what you could push them to for SF and PF - just a quick question before I do, what level trainer do you plan on using?

I'd focus on the second one - the little guy needs too much OD, JS, RB and SB to play SF. Train him, yeah, but to sell and prioritise the PF prospect as a player to take you to the EBBL and keep you there.

Last edited by Elmacca at 12/4/2014 4:58:17 AM

I have an advanced trainer. I'll have the top pick in the next draft so these two may not be the focus next season, but they are a nice backup plan if I draft a dud.

Ok, assuming a level 4 coach, training them together will be next to impossible to get them to SF and PF. You are looking at trying to get 14/14 OD/ID for SF, in order to do this the PF will end up with OD about 12 and not have sufficient training time for his inside stats. You end up after 8 seasons of training with:

Brian at 8/10/14-9/13/8-11/14/10/3
Bellamy at 11/6/12-12/6/5-16/15/14/6

If you trained just one of them, you could achieve in 7 seasons of training

Solo Brian towards SF at 13/11/14-8/12/8-12/14/4/3 (even with 8 seasons he cant really be pushed much higher and you are sacrificing rebounding, shot blocking and movement skills, plus his JS and IS isn't high enough)

Solo Bellamy towards PF at 7/3/8-12/7/5-16/16/15/9 (or any variation of the inside stats, a tidy PF)

Solo Brian towards SG at 15/13/17-13/16/11-9/10/4/2 (a reasonable SG)

You can see that you are only going to get the most out of them if you train them separately. The level 4 trainer over time makes a difference, increasing that will speed up the benefits of training. I'd agree with Tata that your best option is Bellamy towards PF - he doesn't quite train to SF level, I had a good play around and couldn't graft him in that direction without leaving big holes in rebounding and passing. You could consider training Brian towards SG or even PG where you can drop some of the shooting in favour of more OD and PA.

Hope this helps.

Last edited by LA-Vecx at 12/4/2014 12:25:17 PM

Thanks Vecx for some nice info. You're right about needing to separate them to get the best out of their potential, but I am a returning manager and would like to build a homegrown team as much as possible this time around. I guess I'll just have to wait and see what my new draftees look like, I'm getting impatient for the scouting list to appear haha.

I probably won't keep him long term but this is my "third" trainee:
Ross Strange
Age: 19
Height: 6'6" / 198 cm
Potential: allstar

Jump Shot: respectable Jump Range: mediocre
Outside Def.: average Handling: average
Driving: strong Passing: mediocre
Inside Shot: respectable Inside Def.: inept
Rebounding: awful Shot Blocking: strong
Stamina: mediocre Free Throw: atrocious

I like him too, if I were you I would work the defense training first, they tend to be the best base to build a team from.

I won't make a new thread for this but I think it's pretty cool. I just made my first ever purchase, a solid English guy. I checked his transfer history and career stats, and he was drafted by... me?! Or the team I "inherited" rather, so I still count as fully homegrown I guess haha. He then played for Da Bombs, where he won an EBBL and Cup title.

Last edited by Cranston at 1/8/2015 2:36:23 AM

How funny is that!. Bomby's old player too, you got yourself a a story and a half in that player mate, what a journey he has been on

Having a look at his player history and he also played for a greek team from my private league and played in italy against a different team from my private league.

Pretty weird coincidence. He's certainly got around a bit!

That is cool. Such a weird coincidence that he ends up on the team who drafted him, years before you were even here. Just having an EBBL and Cup winner on your team would be cool.

Its like he's gone home lol.