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233445.1
Date: 12/20/2012 2:54:46 PM
Leeds City Ballers
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Second Team:
Feeney Lee BC
Weekly salary: $ 2 183
Role: draws a paycheck
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DMI: 4800
Age: 18
Height: 6'5" / 196 cm
Potential: superstar
Game Shape: inept
Jump Shot: average Jump Range: mediocre
Outside Def.: inept Handling: awful
Driving: respectable Passing: inept
Inside Shot: average Inside Def.: atrocious
Rebounding: mediocre Shot Blocking: mediocre
Stamina: mediocre Free Throw: average

Experience: atrocious


ok so i just bought this guy, i'm about to buy an exceptional trainer too, i'm thinking train his OD to 8/9 first, if i train OD am i likely to see him pop in 2/3 stats a week like i see some draftees?

Also what would you suggest as a training system for him, thanks

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233445.2 in reply to 233445.1
Date: 12/20/2012 3:06:17 PM
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First of all, you don't need an exceptional trainer. Unless you are trying to get this guy onto the English NT, you only need an advanced trainer. Secondly, getting his OD to 9 is a good idea. Third, I would personally like his PA to be at 8. He'll also need some 1v1 training, and if you could get a couple pops in IS, he would have a good start for an inside-oriented team.

To answer your first question, just because you have an exceptional trainer doesn't mean he will pop in 2-3 skills a week. Trainer levels mostly influence the speed of training, not if the player can get 2-3 pops on a given Friday.

Training system
OD to 9
PA to 8 (you can decide if you want him to be a PG or SG)
1v1 to get HA and DR to 8
Train JS during 2-game weeks and the off-season
Just a quick note: It takes an estimated 2.7 training weeks of JR for it to pop, so you don't want to spend too much time training it.
IS in the off-season until he gets to 8 or 9

Then you can just do whatever from there.

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233445.3 in reply to 233445.2
Date: 12/20/2012 3:18:21 PM
Leeds City Ballers
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Second Team:
Feeney Lee BC
ok thanks for your advice, what do you mean when you say 'speed of training' from trainers? i'm very inexperienced with the training aspect of the game and want this guy to hopefully reach 60-70k wages at some point as i'm a sure shot to get promoted to Div 2 in my country.

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233445.4 in reply to 233445.3
Date: 12/20/2012 4:18:52 PM
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What I mean is how fast and slow the player trains. The higher the training level, the faster that player pops, but salary has to be taken into account. Like I said, if you plan to stick with this guy long term, and you have the money, then more power to you. But if you will think of selling him before he is finished training, then you only need an advanced trainer. Of course, a trainee won't pop every single week, especially as they get older. But there are things called sublevels, that look like this for example: .33, .46, 9.23, etc.

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233445.5 in reply to 233445.1
Date: 12/20/2012 4:48:19 PM
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Think about what you would like this guy to look like when he's done training.

Now, the difference between an exceptional trainer and an advanced one will probably mean you spend maybe half a season longer training him to reach that point (with the advanced trainer).

If you feel that he's special enough that it's worth the premium you'll be paying, that's your choice, but if you ask yourself why you need an exceptional trainer, if the reason isn't compelling then you're likely not in need of one.

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233445.6 in reply to 233445.5
Date: 12/20/2012 9:16:16 PM
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If you're trying to figure out training, try playing around using the Training Simulator (229484.1).

You can get a sense of what 4, 5, & 6 level trainers will do for you comparatively. And you can see what it will take to build the kind of player you want.

Join the official USA offsite forum for helper tools, camaraderie and advice! (http://s3.zetaboards.com/BuzzerBeater_USA_NT/index/) – Builder of the Training Simulator: (229484.1) – Former host of the Golden Clam Invitational (http://www.buzzerbeater.com/community/fedoverview.aspx?fe...)
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233445.7 in reply to 233445.2
Date: 12/23/2012 7:43:04 AM
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Sir, is this a requisite to have a 3 games per week to maximize the training min.? I only do two training per week coz i only have 9 player in my roster, if i play the scrimmage, their GS would suffer. Is two games per week is sufficient to train my player? I played him in two 48 min game.

From: Jay_m

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233445.8 in reply to 233445.7
Date: 12/23/2012 8:18:18 AM
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As long as you get 48 minutes in a game, there will be no problem. I prefer scrimmages because it doesn't matter if you win or lose and it gets easier to manage minutes. If you are playing good teams, it is hard to train.

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233445.9 in reply to 233445.7
Date: 12/23/2012 8:20:29 AM
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You have a lot to learn. Training is only once a week on Fridays. It only takes one full game to enable you to give a player full training. So playing your HOF 2 full games is just a waste of training that could be used on another player. Not to mention 96 minutes gives him bad GS. Trainees can keep good GS if they play a full game for training and are a backup in another game. You want to play 3 games a week because it allows u to give 3 players full training (well at least thats the aim). Playing 3 games a week u need about 12 players so u can manage GS properly.

Last edited by aussie dude at 12/23/2012 8:23:53 AM

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233445.10 in reply to 233445.9
Date: 12/23/2012 8:27:21 AM
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Also, he can start just three players in a scrimmage and the game will proceed normally. So, he can add a trainee, and a couple of 1K salary scrubs for scrimmages, and have the benefit of building another good player.

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233445.11 in reply to 233445.5
Date: 12/25/2012 1:39:29 AM
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There are three simple questions to asking yourself whether or not you require a trainer much past advanced:

1) Does my trainee have a high (MVP, HOF or ATG) potential, or is he merely at the superstar level or under?

2) Do i fancy trying to shoot for the u21 squad with my trainee (one could make this argument to the NT as well, but it would seem that few go this far).

3) Do i have a trainee who is significantly behind in pops for his age (applies mostly to 20-21 year old prospects with ~47-52 attributes)?

If you cant fit your guy into at least one of these categories, it is a waste of money. I have a level 5 because i have two prospects who fit into at least two categories on this list, and even still i find myself feeling as if it's not worth it to me to go past a level 4.