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198851.1
Date: 10/18/2011 10:25:26 AM
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Do those teams, which strike matchs for no reason,have pity on their coming fans?
Why not create a term to punish the managers?
I think the fine shuold start at $ 10k.

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198851.2 in reply to 198851.1
Date: 10/18/2011 10:41:20 AM
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I read that those teams are "punished" with verly low attendance and have o work a lot to recover their fan base. So, they have some sort of penalty for doing that.

From: Marot

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198851.3 in reply to 198851.2
Date: 10/18/2011 11:43:36 AM
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The penalty it's just a wild guess. Anyone has proof that this ''punish'' is higher than the revenues that the team finishing in 5 position will have.


A team from the 1st spanish league decided to W.O. just to finish on 5th position when he had chances to finish on 3rd or 4th.

I can assure you that he will win more than 500k during this 2 weeks(not counting he can do some trading to win more money without paying salaries).


The fact is that you will earn more money finishing on 5 position than trying to be on play-off, unless you can win the play-off ;)

From: strilfe

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198851.4 in reply to 198851.3
Date: 10/18/2011 11:46:39 AM
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That's a good point financially, but there you'll lose the opportunity to increase your player experience.

From my point of view, there's always something that will hurt you if you tank. Sure, You may have a Lebron James in your next draft, but there's always a catch.

From: Kukoc

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198851.5 in reply to 198851.3
Date: 10/20/2011 7:25:21 AM
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If you tank your last game and get the 5-th spot, you lose out on training for that week. Are the gains bigger than losses, it depends what your goals are.

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198851.6 in reply to 198851.5
Date: 10/20/2011 8:42:39 AM
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Gains for 5th spots are bigger than losses (at least in leagues like España ACBB). If you train single position usually, you can switch to two-position training like rebounds, one on one, jump shot, which can't be train single position, for one week you lose chance to train 3 players single position. Even if he actually lost 2 weeks of single-position training because of the walkover.
And lost from attendance in next season is surely not so big as gain for not paying one week salary.
But I guess there should be bigger penalty for walkover than it's now.

From: Kukoc

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198851.7 in reply to 198851.6
Date: 10/20/2011 1:00:22 PM
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I agree that overall gains for the average manager at 5-th spot is bigger than losses. But like I said there are different goals for different teams. To a strict training team loosing one training game might be a bigger problem.
I agree that the punishment for WO is too low. It's hard come up with a solution or a fairer punishment. GS drop does nothing only losing money is the language that get's through:) Perhaps teams that use the WO get fined in the sum of TV contract money or player salary minimum for the league. Maybe the other way around this would be raising the playoff teams income (with playoff tickets returning 1.5 times income) with arena revenue split evenly between teams. This way the homecourt advantage teams would not make enourmous profit and the away players still get better revenue. Thoughts?

From: Koperboy

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198851.8 in reply to 198851.7
Date: 10/21/2011 5:43:10 AM
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I think that teams should not receive TV income after the week where they did the walkover. It's also pretty realistic; nobody is watching the game, so TV is losing profit and they fine you.

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198851.9 in reply to 198851.7
Date: 10/21/2011 11:05:30 AM
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I like this idea. WO loses HC Advantage the following week, for every week that WO (to include Relegation/Play Offs).

WO team loses his TV Contract for every week he WOs. This Money is then divided amongst the other teams equally.
(Not only does he lose the money, but he gives every one of his competitors a slight boost).

Now, the HC Advantage may just help him Tank more, but you start taking his money and giving it to others and that will affect him. For instance, if a Team in an 8 Man Conference of a Division were to WO for 7 Consecututive Weeks then he just paid each of his Conference Rivals a full weeks worth of TV Contracts. That would be pretty huge. Just doing a WO once would mean he loses a full Weeks worth, and each team gets 1/7th of a TV Contract Bonus. Not much on the opposing Gain, maybe 1-2 V League Salaries, but still helps.

If a Team has Home Court and WO, the Away Team should get the Merchandise Sales/Gate. This would be very huge, and very hard to make up. People would have to really consider if they want to WO or not then.

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198851.10 in reply to 198851.9
Date: 10/21/2011 11:50:23 AM
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This giving teams in the leagua a cheating option in smaller countrys. One multiaccounter creates number of teams in a small country. Deliberately creates walkover to get more income. I believe only punishing the team is enough. No need to go spreading the revenue around.

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198851.11 in reply to 198851.10
Date: 10/21/2011 6:24:53 PM
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You can have multiple teams? I thought that was a bannable offense. A cheater will cheat, period. It's up to the people that enforce the game's rules to keep an eye on those. Still, I'm good either way. Just figured making your enemies stronger while you make yourself weaker would be a huge reason not to WO.