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Improving BBM Tier Grouping Logic for Division III, IV Teams

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328260.6 in reply to 328260.5
Date: 7/26/2025 2:25:56 AM
Mindsilvania
III.4
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Išpistukai
only division III teams whose world ranking is never higher than the median world ranking of all division IV teams can follow the world ranking fully, instead of the current method.


If i understan correctly, only newer teams this way could be paired with lower division teams in bbm tiers, and not deliberate tankers playing for years and years, right? This could be nice change and extended to all leagues not just III and IV. Of course that way you couldn't get 1024 teams in most tiers.

I personally wish there was no overlap of different division teams, except like you mention newer teams. Tier 1 for I division, tier 2,3 (4?) for II division and so on..

I know a team from my nation that tanked its ranking and got into bbm tier 2 while playing in Heaven (one of the strongest top leagues). Needless to say it dominated that bbm tier, where almost every team is from division II and it's only real opponent was another top league team that somehow got in.

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328260.7 in reply to 328260.6
Date: 7/27/2025 10:50:17 AM
QQguest
I.1
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only division III teams whose world ranking is never higher than the median world ranking of all division IV teams can follow the world ranking fully, instead of the current method.

If i understan correctly, only newer teams this way could be paired with lower division teams in bbm tiers, and not deliberate tankers playing for years and years, right? This could be nice change and extended to all leagues not just III and IV. Of course that way you couldn't get 1024 teams in most tiers.
It seems that whether there is a clear standard for identifying new teams that division IV managers can accept without complaints is a key point.

I have an idea: use weekly revenue as the criterion.
If a team has never exceeded the median weekly revenue of the next lower division (including teams without attendance data), then it can be paired with next lower division teams in BBM tiers.

(Isn't it likely that a new team in division II would immediately have higher revenue than the median revenue in division IV?)
It seems that the number of teams meeting this condition would be much smaller.
I’m not sure whether it might cause any problems.

From: MrJ
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328260.8 in reply to 328260.7
Date: 8/13/2025 5:26:03 AM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
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Westopian Tigers

How does my $95k roster have any chance against a $285k roster. Sure, we are both Div III teams, but these tiers need adjusting somehow...

I don't mind trying to get tactical wins over superior opponents (have done well in that regard this season), however, it's hardly a fair competition when their is $200k difference between teams competing. Tactics can't bridge that gap...

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: MrJ

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328260.10 in reply to 328260.9
Date: 8/13/2025 6:35:34 AM
Swan River Serpents
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Westopian Tigers
How does my $95k roster have any chance against a $285k roster. Sure, we are both Div III teams, but these tiers need adjusting somehow...


You are talking about today's game ?

(136275589)

If that is the case, as you said it was against another D3 team. That team has a lower world ranking than you and bought players after the start of the season. BB can't see into the future and know what will the managers do.

Realistically, you might be in a lower BBM Tier, but you do have a low middle of the pack WR, like your BBM tier, and you probably can afford to raise your salary pageroll if you wanted to.

BBM tiers are grouping hundreds of teams together and it results in teams with 7 wins in 7 games and other teams with 7 losses in 7 games.

There will be differences between some of those teams. Especially if you can purchase players after the draw. And I don't think blocking BBM rosters right at the start of the competition would be great.


Yeah...fair call, GM-Perpete.

I'm just annoyed that I had no realistic chance tonight. Even if I'd picked better tactics and predictions, I still wouldn't have been a chance.

Cheers.

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: MrJ

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328260.12 in reply to 328260.11
Date: 8/14/2025 5:32:21 AM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
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Westopian Tigers
Well maybe you can also buy players?


No. I am a home grown team. I draft and train players only now...

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!