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From: ned
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293866.1
Date: 04/18/2018 12:34:39
Freccia Azzurra
IV.18
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Slaytanic
As title says there is something wrong on my arena. The average of my league is around 320k of income, I'm at 230/240k it means I'm losing money every week since February and before I was around 270k per game. This is an HUGE problem for me cause I wanted to save money but there is no way and at this point I've no idea if I can buy a new player to be more competitive. Marin told me this is not a bug, the rules don't give me any indication about what's wrong and I'm gonna be upset cause again I'm trying to build a roster to be competitive in the second division and make money at the same time. This can't happens due to the bad home income. Thanks for your help ;)

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From: GoldenHoops

To: ned
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293866.2 in reply to 293866.1
Date: 04/18/2018 13:52:06
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I've looked at the arena of the other 7 teams in your conference. They sell 15.000-16000 bleachers for a ticket price in the range of 10-12. You sell the same for just 6 per seat.
So I would advice you to changes your prices. Even if you sell 10.000 bleachers for 10 or 11 you're making more money on those alone.
I just took bleachers as an example, maybe your other prices must also be adjusted.

From: ned

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293866.3 in reply to 293866.2
Date: 04/18/2018 14:32:44
Freccia Azzurra
IV.18
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Slaytanic
thanks for your time. Do you know if there is a reason why I have to sell at 6 per seat when the others can earn the double?

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To: ned
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293866.4 in reply to 293866.3
Date: 04/18/2018 14:52:17
Blue Vikings
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Are you asking why you have to sell your tickets for $6 to fill the seats? If that is your question, the simple answer is that it is tied to your fan survey in a rough way.

If your question is why can't you sell your tickets for more, you just have to adjust the price inthe arena menu.

From: ned

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Date: 04/18/2018 15:03:56
Freccia Azzurra
IV.18
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Slaytanic
Fan survey last season had 4 balls.
Do you think that setting the seats price at 12$ I will have the same attendance? I don't have 100% of seats even with 6$

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From: GoldenHoops

To: ned
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293866.6 in reply to 293866.3
Date: 04/18/2018 15:10:06
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This is written in the BB rules:
if you're consistently selling out all of your bleachers, you might try expanding your arena to include more bleachers, raising the price of the bleacher tickets, or lower the price of your lower-tier seats.


So the prices of each type have an influence on eachother. You could probably sell 16.000 for 10/seat if your pricing is well balanced. Each fan will buy a ticket for the seat he can afford. So with just an asking price of 6 everyone would come and see you.
Moreover in this topic (292188.9) some calculations were made on selling out an arena. I'm not sure if this is correct. However if it is true, an area with 21.000 seats can only sell 20.000 seats. So if you sell 16.000 seats for just 6, only 3000 to 4000 seats are left to divide. Actually, according to those calculation you're selling the maximum you could.
Increasing your prices could shift some fans to other seats. Thus higher prices for bleachers could make room for the other types to be sold, which have higher prices

So both things combined..., you could probably also sell 16.000 bleachers at price 10. You just need to find a balanced pricing for all other seats too. You don't have to sell out every seat to make the most money. If your sold bleachers drop but your other sold seat go up, you might make more money. + as I said before 16.000*6 < 10.000*11.
You'll just have to search until you find the right balance

It's probably best to look at all other stadiums in your league to make an estimated guess.

PS. This I just wrote about pricing itself, without taking all other factors such as losses, fan survey etc into account




Last edited by GoldenHoops at 04/18/2018 15:21:06

From: Lemonshine

To: ned
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293866.7 in reply to 293866.1
Date: 04/19/2018 06:03:10
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1. Bleachers are harder to sell than LT if you don't win your previous game. Your arena is very bleacher heavy
2. Variables reset at the beginning of the season
3. Do not sell out your seats, especially in lower leagues it makes no sense to get very close to the max

I would not lower any of the prices. Bleachers determine the overall number of seats you can sell and it looks to me your cap in D2 is about 19500 seats sold. It is entirely possible that with $8 pricing you would still be selling around 19500 seats.

If it was me I would try 9 or 10 for bleachers, leave 38 and 110 on the other 2 and increase the boxes. I'm pretty sure boxes only sell out at quite low prices in D2, so you may be better off selling around 43-45 instead of 50.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 04/19/2018 06:09:16

From: ned

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293866.8 in reply to 293866.7
Date: 04/19/2018 14:48:25
Freccia Azzurra
IV.18
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thanks a lot, I will try

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